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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2019 11:36:37 GMT -5
Charity is a violent, sociolpathic criminal who will not hesitate to murder to get her way. Worst off all, she thinks that, no matter how appalling her crime, there is always a perfectly valid excuse. At least that is the impression I got here.
Yes, she claimed that her killing Marisol was an accident. However, what she did next destroyed any sympathy one would have for her. She did not confess to the crime, rather, she kept killing to cover up the crime. And it was clear that she was willing to kill Macy too, when her memory erasure spell didn't work.
However, the sisters were able to discover Charity's true nature, and turned the tables on her. The truth won out, Mel, Maggie, and Macy now know who was responsible for their mother's death, and why.
Poor Harry, the look on his face when he found out the truth about Charity, a woman he loved and trusted. His comment to Charity, "I don't know you at all," really struck it home. Poor man had his heart ripped out and stomped on. That had to hurt.
And, in the end, while I couldn't blame them this time, the Vera sisters did not kill Charity, they settled for stripping her of her powers. Unlike another set of Charmed Ones that I could mention, the Vera sisters know that two wrongs don't make a right.
Even Fiona shows up to get a parting shot at her fallen sister.
And Charity sheds whatever decency she had left when she goes traipsing off with Neo-Rex at the end.
Oh, and Parker was in this episode too, but really, who cares?
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Post by adzpower on Mar 25, 2019 14:52:40 GMT -5
"Bigger forces are at work here", Charity said something to that effect at one point, who could she possibly be talking about I wonder?
Looks like Neo-Rex is about to make his move, he's taken Parker down, seized Charity and his goal now is? I'm not sure, presumably he wants revenge on the sisters, we'll see I guess.
I did note that there was once again no Galvin this episode, seems like they may have just gotten rid of him, weird for him to just vanish.
Didn't really seem like Lucy was under any mind control this episode, that's a shame, it means like Charity she knows what she's doing and isn't remorseful about it...yet.
I did find the scene at the end where they all faced Charity a little sloppy, Mel and Maggie can fight like Prue and Phoebe now? Where did that come from exactly?
Neo-Rex wants Charity on his team regardless of the fact she now doesn't have powers, interesting, I suppose as an ex-elder she still knows a lot that could help him.
I feel Fiona is going to perhaps reveal herself to be some kind of dark entity, possibly the villain for season two.
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2019 17:05:30 GMT -5
It looked to me that she went with Neo-Rex by her own free will. Of course, she was on her way to Tartaris, so she really had no where else to go. She's finished as an Elder, Harry will never trust her again, let alone love her, and the Vera sisters hate her (and who could blame them). And yes, she has no powers, but, as you said, Adam, she might have intelligence that Neo-Rex could use.
It's possible that Neo-Rex grabbed someone that Lucy cares about, a family member or close friend, and is holding that person captive. Basically, if Lucy doesn't do what he wants her to do, or if she blabs to anyone, that person dies.
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Post by adzpower on Mar 25, 2019 18:07:18 GMT -5
I felt a bit off about this episode the more I think about it, it was entertaining enough, but I'm a bit stuck on Charity's motivations for doing what she did, okay she didn't mean to kill Marisol I don't think, she was afraid of what a Charmed One infected by demon could do, but then....she killed all those other elders as well? Because they found out what she'd done? How did they find out? They weren't there and with Charity's memory wiping powers I don't see how they could even remember. It seems a little strange to me.
How many elders did she kill in total then? Four or five? It doesn't add up to me, how did four other elders find out and then not fight back? As we saw Charity is powerful but I doubt she is any more powerful than the other elders, I don't buy it.
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Post by Jean on Mar 25, 2019 23:20:11 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but this episode was so very badly put together and messy. I can see why they are re-doing the show in S2 with new showrunners, because maybe these showrunners have no idea how to plot arcs well and are rushing.
Revealing their mothers death should be a huge deal and we find out in episode 15 and 16 and not 22. Feels kinda rushed.
The reasons for Charity killing Marisol and those Elders was so stupid. I found it such a bad writing reason. Why would Charity leave Priyanka's body in the attic. That was silly.
She killed Marisol because she didn't like her mothod of securing a set of Charmed Ones. Plus she wanted to outshine her sister. LOL
So Alastair now has Charity. Interesting.
I'm hoping that the new showrunners for S2 can plot the arcs better and not rush stuff. I'm really concerned for the future of the show, this change might be a great thing, or might kill yet another Charmed. I just wish they focused more on the sisterly relationship, but clearly from the news we heard they want to focus on it less, when that hardly has felt like the big key factor that made S1 of the original so special.
I loved the past few episodes, but this one was kinda a let down with how they handled a massive plot point. As I said, I really hope they can plot story arcs much better and not rush stuff. Good luck new showrunners of S2.
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2019 23:25:31 GMT -5
Charity reminded me a little of Gideon and his mission "for the greater good" in killing Wyatt. Of course, Charity went much farther than Gideon ever did.
As I said, it seemed that she went off with him by her own free will. Looks like she's defecting to the other side.
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Post by Jean on Mar 25, 2019 23:31:11 GMT -5
Charity reminded me a little of Gideon and his mission "for the greater good" in killing Wyatt. Of course, Charity went much farther than Gideon ever did.
As I said, it seemed that she went off with him by her own free will. Looks like she's defecting to the other side.
Your right, she is like Gideon, still I guess I was hoping for a better reason and it just felt like a letdown with all the build-up.
But now, it does looks like she is moving to the other side with Alastair, and him having an Elder will be an asset to him now. I'll wonder how the true big bad of S1 will be. We have so many.
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2019 23:33:20 GMT -5
She could have confessed what she did (killing Marisol) to the other Elders. However, her continued killing made her cross the moral line.
It was good that the Vera sisters didn't kill her though, it would have made them no better than her.
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Post by Jean on Mar 25, 2019 23:39:05 GMT -5
I'm glad they didn't kill her though, that was good on their part.
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Post by Tim on Mar 25, 2019 23:47:50 GMT -5
Thankfully, the Vera sisters have not crossed the moral event horizon that the Halliwell sisters did. And I hope they never do.
Once Charity lost her powers, the fight was over, and the Vera sisters knew that. They're smart enough to know that it's not up to them to pass final judgement.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Mar 26, 2019 4:02:36 GMT -5
Obviously, these sisters know killing someone for the right reasons is wrong unlike the original Charmed Ones or punishing the guilty to so no losing their powers by a tribunal or Morality Bites timeline then.
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Post by Tim on Mar 26, 2019 11:03:36 GMT -5
I get the feeling that the Halliwell sisters would have killed Charity. They had appointed themselves judge, jury, and executioners. That was never their mandate.
Thankfully, the Vera sisters haven't gone down this road.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Mar 26, 2019 14:45:04 GMT -5
And hopefully, they never will.
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Post by Tim on Mar 26, 2019 16:13:18 GMT -5
Amen to that. The Vera sisters realized that it wasn't up to them to decide Charity's fate.
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Post by Katie on Mar 29, 2019 2:46:46 GMT -5
This episode left me both excited but disappointed. Again, they are rushing stuff. Revealing the mother's killers randomly in episode 15 or 16, and not the season finale. Seriously, and the way they handled it felt so cheap. They barely touched on their mother's killer plot for ages, and then bang suddenly threw it in now, with no proper building. Just like Macy losing her virginity, was such a hugely important part for her character got brushed off and Galvin just disappears. Hate to admit this, but I'm hoping these new showrunners they have hired for season 2 can do a better job at plotting stuff better, than rushing stuff.
I still think original Classic Charmed S1 is miles better than the reboot for a first season because I felt like they built what was more important, the sisterly relationship and world build and did arcs later.
This episode was exciting, and I still found stuff I liked in it. But much like the original, what is it with Charmed and story-arcs never being done as well as they could be, or wanting to rush it. This just reminds me of Charmed Season 4, with the Evil Phoebe arc, being poorly wrapped up quickly.
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