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Post by Tim on Apr 26, 2019 11:11:03 GMT -5
First of all, do we really need that big recap at the start. We pretty much know where we stand now.
Wow, what a finale.
Jack really doesn't know where to turn, does he. At least when his maternal grandmother rejects him, he doesn't hurt her, but just leaves (the episode tricks us into thinking that he did something bad to her).
Loved his truth thing.
Cas stuck by Jack, no matter what. I loved his talk with him, and his willingness to protect him.
Of course, I knew that Dean wouldn't go through with killing Jack.
And then there is Chuck, man what a selfish dick. Dean and Sam refuse to dance to his tune anymore, so he throws a fit and releases Hell on Earth. All the bad souls are freed to roam the Earth, including evil ghosts the brothers had dealt with in the past (like Bloody Mary). The last we see of the brothers and Cas, they find themselves in an episode of The Walking Dead!
As for Jack, Chuck kills him, but we then see him in the dark, awake, with Death AKA Billie, who tells him that they "need to talk".
And this is where we stand until next October .
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Post by Katie on Apr 27, 2019 18:07:33 GMT -5
Very shocking finale. So all past monsters are back.
This is a fun way to revisit. I'll wonder if they might consider bringing back past innocents, wouldn't it be cool to see the young boy in 'Something Wicked' or the little kid in 'Dead in the Water' all grown up being able to help out now. That is a cool way to revisit the past.
Too bad Mary is dead, because bringing back the Yellow-Eyed Demon, wouldn't have the same effect if Mary was still alive to be able to kill him right away.
Only hell has risen, not the empty. So Lucifer and the angels can't return (we'll not yet).
So Meg and Ruby could be back?
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Post by Tim on Apr 27, 2019 23:18:34 GMT -5
Well, the evil ghosts are. When the Winchesters severed their link to Earth (by burning their bones), there were dispatched to Hell. Now Chuck has freed them.
I can't blame Dean and Sam for finally calling Chuck out (even though he could squish them as easily as we would step on a bug). They had simply had enough.
And Chuck acted like a bratty little boy who throws a fit when no one wants to play with him anymore.
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Post by Katie on Apr 28, 2019 16:05:27 GMT -5
Chuck is the ultimate and final big bad I really actually like it. I know from reading online, people love this so very much. It is perfect in a way to close the show out.
Here's hoping that next season is the final season, they don't forget the Wayward Sisters, and have them appear more often. They said they were going to use them this season, and all we got was Jody and Donna in one episode. As long as none of them die.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 29, 2019 5:01:17 GMT -5
Going back over Supernatural season 4 when Chuck/God first appeared as just the writer/prophet you could think the title of the episode 'The Monster At The End Of This Book' and some of the comments said was a foreshadowing of what's came now concerning him although the writers who were different then didn't know this of course.
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Post by Katie on Apr 29, 2019 8:45:12 GMT -5
How can they fight him? If he goes, all existence goes with him. People think that Death and Jack are going to work together to take down Chuck, and Jack might replace Chuck as the new god so existence doesn't go away, more like a new god in Chuck's place. Some theories, I've read online. Not sure, how that is possible though. Yeah, I know. They kind of dropped the ball here.
[/quote] [/quote] They really did, and we were promised so many Wayward Sisters in S15, I guess the younger stars apart from Jody and Donna had other projects lined up, and they couldn't bring all of them back together. Going back over Supernatural season 4 when Chuck/God first appeared as just the writer/prophet you could think the title of the episode 'The Monster At The End Of This Book' and some of the comments said was a foreshadowing of what's came now concerning him although the writers who were different then didn't know this of course. I read about that online. Of course, that is much like Phoebe's true love beginning with on Classic Charmed. The writers didn't plan it back then, it just so happens to be writers getting lucky.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 29, 2019 13:52:58 GMT -5
Yeah it seems the writers did get lucky Katie.
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Post by Tim on Apr 29, 2019 23:15:03 GMT -5
Makes sense. To maintain the universe, and all the others, will require lots of power.
Of course, there is still Amara.
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Post by Katie on Apr 30, 2019 7:30:18 GMT -5
That's right forgotten about Amara. I'm sure she'll be back too, no doubt.
It looks like revisiting past cases with returned monsters of the week is what they'll be doing in the final season. Which is exciting.
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Post by Tim on Apr 30, 2019 11:50:03 GMT -5
They might need her to help fight her brother.
Looks like they'll be putting out a lot of fires that Chuck started.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 30, 2019 13:52:19 GMT -5
Well seeing the past monsters turn up at the end of the finale proves the Winchesters and Cas will have to fight them next year and Amara returning does make sense since she's on the same level of power as her brother provided she's done being in Reno of course where Chuck mentioned she was then.
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Post by Tim on Apr 30, 2019 17:15:31 GMT -5
And no doubt those monsters will be on their guard this time.
Chuck and Amara are the two most powerful beings in the universe. We must seem like insects to them.
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Post by Katie on Apr 30, 2019 21:19:40 GMT -5
Well seeing the past monsters turn up at the end of the finale proves the Winchesters and Cas will have to fight them next year and Amara returning does make sense since she's on the same level of power as her brother provided she's done being in Reno of course where Chuck mentioned she was then. Yeah it does. She was in Reno wasn't she. I'll wonder if they'll try a spin-off again, with a clean slate after all the stuff with God, Heaven and Hell and or if they get a new God. Maybe when they finally have them put back in check, we'll be in the next generation of SPN. It just worries me, they'll kill off some of the Wayward Sisters, with it not being picked up, and SPN ending, but that would just upset the fans even more. But you know, they'll have five whole characters to consider dying. And someone like Cas won't be killed unless it is last episode. I don't want to even think of such a thing.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on May 1, 2019 6:07:22 GMT -5
If people like The Wayward sisters or Cas aren't killed next year then and they don't do a spin off afterward there's always novels or comics to continue the story with even doing separate ones like The Wayward Sisters protecting Saux Falls or Cas doing whatever with Sam and Dean showing up occasionally if there not dead that is provided Jensen and Jared don't mind their likenesses being used of course.
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Post by Tim on May 2, 2019 11:05:15 GMT -5
I agree.
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