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Post by Squad 51 on Dec 7, 2019 11:41:46 GMT -5
In Germany it's automatic in the system. Just start with 18 and automatically you get your voting letter when's an election.
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Post by Tim on Dec 7, 2019 12:10:43 GMT -5
Good way as any.
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Post by BettyNewbie on Oct 7, 2020 20:55:32 GMT -5
Forget "Ok, Boomer." What we should really be saying is "Ok, Gen Xer." Cheeto is still leading with only ONE age group, and it's people in their 50s. And, even people in their 40s are supporting him more than people in their 60s. Combine that with what seems like story, after story of 90s alt rockers coming out as raging MAGAs (ahem, Billy Corgan and Krist Novoselic), and it doesn't look like Boomers are the problem here. Daria is embarrassed for her generation.
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Post by Tim on Oct 7, 2020 23:31:09 GMT -5
Poor Daria.
I can why she's hiding her head in shame.
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Post by BettyNewbie on Oct 8, 2020 0:41:44 GMT -5
Family Ties may have been more prescient than we give it credit for with its portrayal of Alex P. Keaton, a Gen X teenager who was more conservative than his Boomer parents. Someone who was born the same year as the character (1965) wouldn't have memory of any presidents before Dick Nixon and likely voted for either Ronnie Raygun (1984) or HW (1988) as their first presidential election. They came of age right when the backlash to 60s liberalism was in full swing, and they wouldn't even see a two-term Democratic president until their 30s. We don't want to think of the rebellious "Grunge Generation" as being heavily populated by right-wingers, but the stats don't lie. Who were the first two Gen Xers to appear on presidential tickets? Teabagger nut Sarah Palin (born 1964) and Ayn Randbot Paul Ryan (born 1970). Nope, not Obama -- He was born in 1961, just before the Boomer cut-off. And, the number of Gen X cultural figures who identify as libertarian/conservative/Republican seems almost endless. Wanna know where Kennedy from Alternative Nation is nowadays? Being employed by Faux News, just like fellow Gen X icon Stacey Dash used to be. And, then you have the proudly "anti-PC" Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Or, meatheaded podcaster Joe Rogan, who loves spewing casual racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia in the name of "free speech" and giving airtime to neo-Nazis. Gen X isn't totally a lost cause -- Kamala Harris (born 1964) is also an Xer, for example. But, it's plainly obvious that the generation produced more Palins and Ryans than it did Harrises. It's largely going to be up to the Millennials to take over from the Boomers.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Oct 8, 2020 6:16:20 GMT -5
I think what happened is that Gen X grew up, had families and voted for stability now that they have jobs and families. But voting for generic Republicans is one thing, Trump is another. It does make sense that people with stable jobs and families would want to protect their families and keep their jobs, but it seems Republicans from Gen X are unusually nutty a la Palin and Paul. But Palin is from Idaho and was governor of Alaska and Rand Paul’s dad was Ron Paul, Libertarian presidential candidate from Texas. However, it does sound weird that guys like Novoselic and Corgan are big Trump fans, since the whole alternative music scene was so liberal. Maybe drugs messed with their heads, or they just want to be contrary and annoy people, or worse, actually believe Trump’s nonsense.
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Post by Squad 51 on Oct 8, 2020 11:10:16 GMT -5
Trump may speak the language of this generation but he's certainly not one of them. Different background and all. I mean, to believe in such simple phrases is never good. We had our example here (Hitler) but it seems, history needs to repeat itself (today's party AfG).
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Post by Tim on Oct 8, 2020 11:20:15 GMT -5
Nutty as she is, at least Sarah Palin had political experience.
Who was Orange? A relic of the 80's who only returned to national attention because of a stupid reality show. He had no business become leader of the Republican party, let alone President.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Oct 8, 2020 11:21:57 GMT -5
Nutty as she is, at least Sarah Palin had political experience.
Who was Orange? A relic of the 80's who only returned to national attention because of a stupid reality show. He had no business become leader of the Republican party, let alone President.
Yeah, but being governor of Alaska isn’t really the hardest state to govern. It has a very low population and vast open land. I imagine being the governor of New York or California is a lot harder.
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Post by Squad 51 on Oct 8, 2020 11:25:08 GMT -5
Still wonders me how he could take over such an established party that they follow like dogs.
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Post by Tim on Oct 8, 2020 11:31:37 GMT -5
Well, Ah-nold managed to govern California.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Oct 8, 2020 11:35:15 GMT -5
Well, Ah-nold managed to govern California.
And he was elected twice so he must have done something right. But seriously, Palin was a joke as a VP candidate and she may have torpedoed McCain’s chance to be president
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Post by BettyNewbie on Oct 8, 2020 14:21:50 GMT -5
I think what happened is that Gen X grew up, had families and voted for stability now that they have jobs and families. But voting for generic Republicans is one thing, Trump is another. It does make sense that people with stable jobs and families would want to protect their families and keep their jobs, but it seems Republicans from Gen X are unusually nutty a la Palin and Paul. But Palin is from Idaho and was governor of Alaska and Rand Paul’s dad was Ron Paul, Libertarian presidential candidate from Texas. However, it does sound weird that guys like Novoselic and Corgan are big Trump fans, since the whole alternative music scene was so liberal. Maybe drugs messed with their heads, or they just want to be contrary and annoy people, or worse, actually believe Trump’s nonsense. That seems to make sense, but how do you explain Boomers (60s-early 70s) being more anti-Cheeto? And, Millennials (late 20s-30s) definitely haven't shown the same hard trend towards conservatism as they've grown up and started families. Something seems to be up with Gen Xers in particular. Looking back, while alt rock definitely had a liberal/progressive/feminist side, there was also another side that was much more about contrarianism, cynicism, and "fighting the man." This group saw liberalism and "political correctness" as just another form of censorship and morality policing. This probably why a high number of Gen X conservatives seem to identify as "libertarians." It's a label that sounds edgier and more counterculture, despite representing ideas that really aren't.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Oct 8, 2020 14:43:27 GMT -5
You may be right about the contrarian streak, since it seems as though one is “supposed” to be liberal, being conservative looks edgy and contrary. I’ve noticed how many people in my age cohort are libertarian, it seems as though libertarians are seen as cool conservatives who are socially liberal and smoke pot.
I stopped being a libertarian after Obama became president and some weird and dangerous people started becoming libertarian. Racists, now-Nazis, conspiracy theory loons, and paranoiacs started calling themselves libertarian and were talking about stock piling guns and defying the government. I got out of there since I didn’t want to be around racist loons, in general I don’t like any political movement full of extremists.
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Post by Tim on Oct 8, 2020 17:05:21 GMT -5
Well, not all of us. I would never support Orange.
Of course, I don't live in the U.S.
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