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Post by Squad 51 on Apr 7, 2020 7:09:38 GMT -5
Yeah, like the obsession with guns and the 2nd amendment. This is crazy! And the NRA profits from that, like Trump and many other people. Like they also bought guns to fight the virus?! As if this would work.
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Post by Tim on Apr 7, 2020 11:43:16 GMT -5
The NRA helped get Orange Hitler elected. No way he's gonna want to upset that apple cart.
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Post by Trinity on Apr 7, 2020 20:01:14 GMT -5
The problem is that most of that stuff is in the U.S. Constitution, and people like Orange Hitler worship that thing.
The fact that it was written in 1787, and reflects the value of a world that is long since gone, is a fact they always ignore. Yeah, like the obsession with guns and the 2nd amendment. This is crazy! And the NRA profits from that, like Trump and many other people. Like they also bought guns to fight the virus?! As if this would work. I just don't get it. It's a wonder mass shootings are so bad in America. These things are not common in some countries, since they take gun control very seriously. How is a gun going to help fight the virus. What are people going to be shooting someone for a roll of toilet paper. I sadly wouldn't be surprised if they really did happen already.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 8, 2020 2:29:22 GMT -5
Everyone for themselves some people might say during this crisis when it should be people thinking about others also especially vulnerable, disabled and elderly citizens who need essentials just as much as they do of course.
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Post by Squad 51 on Apr 8, 2020 6:23:04 GMT -5
Yeah, America could be seen as a country of egoists what doesn't have to apply for everyone. I don't know all citizens naturally, yet the leaders are not an example here.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Apr 8, 2020 8:26:41 GMT -5
The problem is that most of that stuff is in the U.S. Constitution, and people like Orange Hitler worship that thing.
The fact that it was written in 1787, and reflects the value of a world that is long since gone, is a fact they always ignore. Yeah, like the obsession with guns and the 2nd amendment. This is crazy! And the NRA profits from that, like Trump and many other people. Like they also bought guns to fight the virus?! As if this would work. I just don't get it. It's a wonder mass shootings are so bad in America. These things are not common in some countries, since they take gun control very seriously. How is a gun going to help fight the virus. What are people going to be shooting someone for a roll of toilet paper. I sadly wouldn't be surprised if they really did happen already. Unfortunately it is really easy to get a gun in the US, depending on the state. Where I live in New Jersey it’s very hard to get the permit for a gun unless one is in law enforcement or the military, but my brother lives in Virginia where it’s much easier. He’s an NRA member and owns a lot of guns, including rifles and an AK-47. He can just go to a store, buy a gun, and go to the police station to register it in less than an hour since they have his paperwork on file. I get having one handgun for self defense or a rifle for hunting, but not a whole arsenal’s worth.
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Post by Tim on Apr 8, 2020 11:57:22 GMT -5
The 2nd Amendment was good for the time it was written. I mean back then if you didn't hunt, you didn't eat (today hunting is a recreation, of course).
However, that world is long gone. The 2nd Amendment is no longer needed.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Apr 8, 2020 18:19:00 GMT -5
Plus the 2nd Amendment makes some people think they need to be armed against the government, the idea of the government out to get you is very prevalent with some people. That made some sense when the Constitution was written since our government wasn’t stable but that’s not the case now. It also ties into the conspiracy theory that the government is brainwashing people or implanting microchips and all that junk, which is why people feel they need to stockpile weapons
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Post by Squad 51 on Apr 9, 2020 4:22:45 GMT -5
Yet, still, when a massacre happens the NRA says that a good guy with a weapon can stop a bad guy with one?! Nuts if you ask me. What we've got is two dead people with many more!!
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Post by Tim on Apr 9, 2020 23:52:46 GMT -5
Plus the 2nd Amendment makes some people think they need to be armed against the government, the idea of the government out to get you is very prevalent with some people. That made some sense when the Constitution was written since our government wasn’t stable but that’s not the case now. It also ties into the conspiracy theory that the government is brainwashing people or implanting microchips and all that junk, which is why people feel they need to stockpile weapons
And that where we get people like Timothy McVeigh from. He blew up a building full of innocent people because of such thinking.
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Post by BettyNewbie on May 16, 2020 10:45:11 GMT -5
Damn. Remember that these aren't struggling citizens who just want to go back to work. These "protests" are the work of far-right militias.It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together. Michigan is a state that Orange Hitler barely won in 2016, needs to win again in 2020, and has high odds of losing. On top of that, Michigan's governor is not only a Democrat, but also a woman, and we all know how the "deplorables" feel about women in power. (Indeed, the attacks on Gov. Whitmer have carried a strong tinge of misogyny.) If Orange Hitler can't get Michigan the proper way, then he's going to take it by force. Very dangerous times for the people up there.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on May 16, 2020 11:04:32 GMT -5
All I can say as an American is WTF?!? This sounds like something out of a dystopian novel or some action movie, it’s one thing to protest but protesting at the state capital with guns or threatening to kill the governor is just wrong, period. I might have some respect for the protesters if they were ordinary working people who want to get back to work, but not these assholes. WTF is wrong with our country😳?!
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Post by Tim on May 16, 2020 12:00:39 GMT -5
These protestors should be arrested. What they did is essentially a terrorist act.
Of course, if that happened, the NRA would be howling about "our right to bear arms being taken away."
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Post by BettyNewbie on May 16, 2020 19:21:34 GMT -5
These protestors should be arrested. What they did is essentially a terrorist act.
Of course, if that happened, the NRA would be howling about "our right to bear arms being taken away."
As I said in another thread, that's exactly what would've happened if these protesters were Black, Latino, or Middle Eastern. But, since they're white, they're simply seen as "angry citizens exercising their Second Amendment rights" and not the domestic terrorists they actually are. Remember that the NRA supported gun control back when the Black Panthers were the ones carrying guns. It has NEVER really been about any constitutional amendment. It's all about protecting the right of white men to terrorize everyone else by force.
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Post by Tim on May 16, 2020 23:21:12 GMT -5
Doesn't that Constitution of yours state that All Men Are Created Equal (yeah, no women, but it was written in 1787).
Talk about a bold faced lie. Of course, it was written by a bunch of slave owners.
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