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Post by Tim on May 8, 2020 11:27:37 GMT -5
Yeah, Jada was just forgotten about. Not to mention Niko. One was black, the other Asian. Gee, I wonder why they were ditched in favour of the Hot White Girl 
Yeah, writers, it's 2020. Get with the program, okay?
Another thing the new Nancy Drew has over this show. One of their main characters is black (Ned), the other Asian (George). And both these characters have been decently fleshed out (both these characters were white in the original novels, but don't forget said novels were written decades ago).
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Post by adzpower on May 8, 2020 16:03:58 GMT -5
The frustrating thing is Abby probably would have worked quite well in small doses, but it became clear as the season went on that the writers would rather write for her than the actual sisters. If they don't think the actual sisters are interesting enough then that's on you! Its your job to MAKE them interesting by writing them that way! I think its safe to say the sisters are not the problem, good actors, they look the part, do the best with what they're given etc.
It comes down to bad writing, and its something that plagues a lot of the CW shows, the downfall of Arrow is a prime example, yet when it was given new writers, the show started to turn around. Basically, I'll just say it, axe them and give us someone new who actually knows how to write a coherent story!
Season one has a lot of faults, but the story was engaging enough that it kept me interested enough to watch the whole thing, warts and all. By 2x15 I was just bored. 15 episodes of just going nowhere, seemed like there was some solid build-up early on that just went and took a giant dump on itself.
There was a huge rumour a couple weeks ago from a source on twitter (take it with a grain of salt), that when the CW renewed all its shows this year, they actually renewed them all for two seasons, as a test to see if multi-year renewals could work. Which would mean Charmed is now going to run until at least season four. Looking at how the show is right now, I don't know that that is a good thing.
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Post by Tim on May 8, 2020 16:28:18 GMT -5
I think this is predicated on the ratings of said shows. While the CW is more tolerant of low rated shows than the other networks (because their audience is nowhere near as big), even they are going to realize that they're backing a losing horse and cut their losses.
As you said, Adam,, the fault lies not with the actors, but with the writers. And seeing the show spin its wheels for most of this season sends a message that new writers are needed, sooner, rather than later.
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Post by BettyNewbie on May 8, 2020 23:03:35 GMT -5
There was a huge rumour a couple weeks ago from a source on twitter (take it with a grain of salt), that when the CW renewed all its shows this year, they actually renewed them all for two seasons, as a test to see if multi-year renewals could work. Which would mean Charmed is now going to run until at least season four. Looking at how the show is right now, I don't know that that is a good thing. Keep in mind that those renewals happened before the COVID hammer dropped and wrecked scheduling. We're now potentially looking at the network having to take half, if not all, of the 2020-21 season off. We all know there's going to be a second wave outbreak in the fall. It will be hard for shows to renew filming for next season business-as-usual. Either go back and put people's lives at risk, or take a year off and keep everyone safe at the cost of losing money. In that case, it becomes harder to justify keeping Charmed around past Season 3. The show has low ratings and little-to-no fanbase. And, syndication doesn't carry the same value in the era of streaming and DVDs. If the CW needs to pull the plug on a few shows to keep itself afloat after the pandemic subsides, Charmed should be high on the ax list. |
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Post by Tim on May 9, 2020 17:13:59 GMT -5
Does ratings take DVR's into account? Anyone know?
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Post by Dark Avenger on May 9, 2020 18:03:08 GMT -5
Does ratings take DVR's into account? Anyone know? I think so but not advertisers I think that rely on Nielsen Ratings. Even so. Charmed still rates bad even with DVR. It's still low compared to the others. The DVR ratings have dropped this season. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 25, 2021 18:30:58 GMT -5
From the interview that Dark Avenger posted last year: They only had three episodes left of S2, before they were shut down. The season premier (that just aired) was one of them. So it looks like they will wrap up this faction thing in the next two, and then move on to something else.
If you ask me, they should spend the rest of this season just doing stand alone adventures. Continue the story of the sisters personal lives and such, but otherwise, Monster Of The Week.
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Post by Pia on Jan 25, 2021 19:02:31 GMT -5
Looks like two more.
They really need to get back to the sister's personal lives and give them actual lives, making them just witches and hunting demons isn't what made the show so special. It's the least interesting part for many. What made the original a success was the sisters and their personal lives balancing out the witch life. The show has gone in the direction it seems where its 100% witch life.
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Post by Tim on Jan 26, 2021 0:30:05 GMT -5
They mentioned a time jump.
So the faction thing ends, and the next episode picks up a few months later? |
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Post by Colton on Jan 26, 2021 7:35:13 GMT -5
They mentioned a time jump.
So the faction thing ends, and the next episode picks up a few months later? That looks promising, a time jump is really needed. Of course, given COVID stopped the season, I assume said time jump will jump forward nearly a year to current times of February 2021, assuming that's when the episode airs. Hopefully in said jump, the sisters are assuming their lives again, jobs and school and settled somewhere. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 26, 2021 12:20:04 GMT -5
One of the sisters, or Harry, can do a voice over, explaining what happened during said time jump: "After we defeated the faction, we decided that we didn't need to hide anymore. So we moved to (fill in name of city) and began to live our lives again."
Something like that.
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Post by adzpower on Jan 26, 2021 16:01:19 GMT -5
Actually I think they are going with the time jump, I saw a while ago the actors had all changed their hairstyles, Here's a link for Madeleine's, but the others were different too. Usually actors aren't allowed drastic hair changes part way through filming UNLESS its for the show, hence why in OG Charmed why they went so berserk at Rose when she changed her hair, but with all three doing it, that would indicate its for the show, and thus, a time jump.
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Post by Tim on Jan 26, 2021 18:10:44 GMT -5
Like her new look.
The time jump will offer a fresh start. And, as I said, they should not plunge into another arc. Arcs just don't work with this show. Stand alone is the ticket here (except for the sisters personal stories and such).
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Post by Jean on Jan 26, 2021 21:39:51 GMT -5
Like her new look.
The time jump will offer a fresh start. And, as I said, they should not plunge into another arc. Arcs just don't work with this show. Stand alone is the ticket here (except for the sisters personal stories and such).
If the show goes back to that, I might watch it again.
I personally like the stand alone's, it's what made Classic Charmed shine. Already into S3, and the arcs of Classic are annoying most. I really love the stand alones, and the sisters personal stories and such. That is what made me bored with the reboot, to give up. Too much witches who happen to be sisters, too much Cain's, too much on just being witches and that's it, and the sisters barely feel like sisters half the time, they are too separated. It bored me.
I'll keep myself posted here, to see what those select few who stuck with it think.
But might be too little too late, ratings are dropping, but we'll see.
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Post by Tim on Jan 27, 2021 0:23:06 GMT -5
Classic Charmed never did story arcs well. However, as this version went straight to Kernus, that was what we got.
I hope the writers have learned from their mistakes. Surely the bad ratings much make them realize that they took the wrong approach.
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The show already had a perfectly good morally-ambiguous witch character in Jada, but somehow, she wasn't "interesting" or "likable" enough (aka. she was Black and lesbian), so she needed to be dropped after only one season.
