Queen Elizabeth II And Other Royalty Thread

[Melinda Halliwell]

Which the first name isn't a traditional royal one that's different then. And apparently his second name Harrison before Mountbatten might be in connection with Harrison Ford I heard somewhere if their fans of the actor perhaps.

[Tim]

I wonder where Archie came from?  Archie Andrews?  Archie Leach (Cary Grant's real name)?

[evermorerose]

An update (so far) of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's relocation to Canada:

www.businessinsider.com/trump-meghan-markle-prince-harry-queen-2020-1

That's right, the same man who broke Royal Protocol on his last state visit to the UK is here commenting about Prince Harry and Meghan's move as if he has any high ground compared to those two. Honestly, his comments aren't helping in the situation. 

Personally, I do hope Harry and Meghan's move to Canada goes well. I don't think it's going to be permanent - given that they did it first and foremost, for the safety of Archie. Surely, when Archie hits his teens, or turns 18, his parents will be back to being full time senior royals. Besides, Harry and Archie are already going farther from the throne in the line of succession (and they could go much farther if William and Kate have another child), so them leaving UK for a while isn't going to bring instability to the UK. In fact, if the UK pushes through with finally leaving the EU later this month, it would certainly be a more urgent concern for the UK than the whole Harry and Meghan stepping back from their senior royal duties thing.

Nevertheless, that doesn't mean that Harry and Meghan did not do anything wrong by announcing their decision to step back from senior royal duties before consulting the Queen. That was still a mistake on their part for not consulting the Queen on such a major decision.

[Tim]

Truth be told, I don't understand what all the fuss is about.  Harry, Meghan, and Archie are not directly in the ling of succession (that's William and his son, George), so if they want to step back, let them.

And they want to come live in my country.  I'll roll out the welcome carpet

[Squad 51]

Typical Trump. When it's not about him, all is bad. And well, let Harry and Meghan have their freedom for once.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Well the Queen has okayed Harry and Meghan's request to step back from royal duties without public support for money which I think is the best thing considering.

[Tim]

I think some have made a big fuss over nothing.  Let them live their lives as they choose.

[Squad 51]

Though we have a royal history and all, the Queen's sources still remain here. Even though the name of the clan had changed.

[Tim]

I wonder if they ever did a series on the German Monarchy. 

It ended with Wilhelm II, but what came before him?

[Squad 51]

In that case we've got too many dynasties here, especially the Habsburg or the Guelfs. The list is way too long and switched from dynasty to dynasty. There's a list on the German Wikipedia, yet not in English. Sorry.

[Tim]

I've heard of the Hapsburg's, but not the Guelf's.

Who are they?

[Squad 51]

The Guelfs are the ones who ruled before Queen Victoria. All the Georges in the UK, for example. Or in Germany, the guys with the name Ernst August and so on.

[Tim]

Ah, thanks Jana.

I know that the Hohenzollern Family were the ones deposed after the First World War.

[Squad 51]

They are also called the house Hanover. Our king was elected over many years. It started with Otto I. in 962 and ended with Franz II (Hapsburg) in 1806, due to Napoleon. This was the first Reich, the second one is the Hohenzollern time and third one is known. To be helpful with the counting here.

As I said, it's complicated here. That's why we still have the federal system with the countries and elected chancellor.

[Tim]

Of course, Germany wasn't a united country until 1871, when Wilhelm I because Kaiser.   And you still had a bunch of kings.