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Post by Tim on Feb 18, 2019 13:15:43 GMT -5
I have to admit that I liked the Harry story best of all. He and Mel made a great team as the two of them tracked down his long lost son, Carter. And, when they finally found Carter, you could tell that Harry wanted to go over and talk to him. However, what could poor Harry say to him, his son is around 66, and Harry looks decades younger!
Of course, this means that the Vera's won't be losing Harry as their white lighter. I'm glad, because he is part of their family.
This parallels Mel's situation with Niko. She realizes that, if she lets Niko back in, she puts her back in danger. Of course, looks like Niko isn't going anywhere.
And Macy has to find a way to get rid of her dark side. She even makes a deal with Parker's human mother, since they both have similar agendas.
And yes, Parker is back. Yay  And these events may have put him back in Maggie's good graces. Maggie, please, do NOT take him back. Be friends with him if you must, but don't make the same mistakes that Phoebe Halliwell made over and over in regards to Cole.
And WTF is Lucy doing working with neo-Rex? Isn't she human? Does she actually know what neo-Rex is, or is she operating under a misguided belief that he too is human (and he promised her something for her help). I get the feeling that neo-Rex has no intention of honouring that deal, whatever it was, and once he get what he wants from her, Lucy is as good as dead (unless the Vera's can save her, of course).
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Post by BettyNewbie on Feb 18, 2019 21:17:17 GMT -5
Great episode, in spite of Parker's unwelcome return. Loved seeing Mel help Harry find his son, and I also enjoyed Macy digging into the story behind her resurrection. I wonder how she died in the first place? Could this be the reason for the discrepancy between her stated birthdate (November 1990) and Mel/Maggie seeing Marisol pregnant with her in 1989? As in, her stated birthdate is actually her resurrection date? I have to admit that I liked the Harry story best of all. He and Mel made a great team as the two of them tracked down his long lost son, Carter. And, when they finally found Carter, you could tell that Harry wanted to go over and talk to him. However, what could poor Harry say to him, his son is around 66, and Harry looks decades younger! Of course, this means that the Vera's won't be losing Harry as their white lighter. I'm glad, because he is part of their family. Reading this makes me realize that Harry already feels much more like a part of the Vera family than Leo ever felt like part of the Halliwell family, despite having actually married into them. Harry's had several close/emotional/touching moments with all three of the sisters, and you can really tell that he loves them like they were his daughters. On the flipside, Leo rarely bonded with the three sisters that weren't his wife, and even his relationship with Piper quickly unraveled and devolved into him being nothing more than her doctor/taxi cab/doormat. Whatever "love" there was between Leo and the Halliwells over the show's 8 season run doesn't amount to what I saw between Harry and the Veras just in this one episode. Maybe, the old show's Elders really were right to forbid witch/whitelighter romances. And WTF is Lucy doing working with neo-Rex? Isn't she human? Does she actually know what neo-Rex is, or is she operating under a misguided belief that he too is human (and he promised her something for her help). I get the feeling that neo-Rex has no intention of honouring that deal, whatever it was, and once he get what he wants from her, Lucy is as good as dead (unless the Vera's can save her, of course). Remember that Neo-Rex has the power of mind-control. He can easily get her to do whatever he wants without her even realizing it. Now, as to how Lucy crossed paths with him, I have no clue. |
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Post by Tim on Feb 19, 2019 0:25:22 GMT -5
Can you see the Halliwell sisters going out of their way to help Leo the way the Vera's have with Harry? I can't. The Vera sisters love and trust Harry, and hated the thought of losing him. When Mel realized what was going on, she threw herself into the task of helping him find his son.
Leo, on the other hand, was treated more and more like a personal slave as the original series went on.
Now that you mention it, Lucy did seem to have a vacant expression once Neo-Rex logged off, like she didn't realize what was going on. This suggests some kind of post-hypnotic control he had over her. It wouldn't surprise me if she forgot that whole conversation. Since Lucy herself doesn't know what's going on, Neo-Rex knows that Maggie can't use her powers to listen in.
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Post by adzpower on Feb 19, 2019 7:17:10 GMT -5
I liked seeing Macy wrestle with her views on science and how they correlate with her coming back from the dead. That was a good bit of character development and it was true to her personality as a character.
I really liked the necromancer, interesting that she was giving Macy tips on how to use her powers, though maybe next time she could give a less deadly tip. It was also fascinating seeing her perspective of how the elders are maybe a bit power mad with who they imprison. Even though ultimately she in fact DID deserve to be imprisoned, but I'm betting that's not the case for everyone. I loved the call-back to emotions interrupting and messing with a beings’ powers, as we saw with Harry. Not moments later Macy’s powers were magnified by seeing Maggie in danger, her anger boosting her telekinesis, another way an emotion can affect a beings’ powers. Making me think instead of having their powers grow in this, they might just get temporary boosts from heightened emotions? I guess we’ll see.
I absolutely loved Harry and Mel working together, considering these two represent Leo and Piper, it was nice to effectively see Leo and Piper working together AS FRIENDS.
Oh, Parker’s back, I forgot about him. 
One very nit-picky thing, Mel and Harry were in England at the same time Maggie’s party was going on, the party probably would have been at around 9-10pm, England is six hours ahead so it would have been 3am at the time, but it was light, there was traffic, it looked busy…..at 3am.
Also, no-one in England would have the name Carter, especially in the 1950’s.
Oh, they’ve linked Parker’s duality in with Macy, I kind of like that. It made him momentarily relevant.
So that’s where Macy gets her darkness from, some demon blood, I’m being very much reminded of Sam Winchester right now, we’re going to get a full-on Macy turns evil storyline at some point aren’t we? Like Phoebe queen of the underworld, except hopefully better. I’m seeing a big problem with Macy trying to remove her demon blood, for all we know that’s exactly what’s keeping her alive, I’m no expert but I would have thought spells need some kind of key or conduit to remain active, it could be that the demon blood in her DNA is what is keeping her body going, without it…..?
I definitely think poor Lucy is being mind-controlled, perhaps some kind of seeds planted subconsciously without her even realizing what she is doing. I’m sure the sisters will save her at some point. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Feb 19, 2019 7:23:55 GMT -5
I didn't mind this episode too though wasn't thrilled to see Parker again.
Like Tim hopefully, Maggie doesn't take him back but then people do love drama so you never know what the writers may do actually.
I enjoyed Harry's story and how Mel helped him find Carter which of course had to end the way it did because Harry was dead which would've been weird if he'd walked up to his son and said hello then.
At least he saw Carter was okay and fought out he had great grandkids too extending his family.
I liked how Harry used British terminology when saying certain things like having a pint which rang true with me being British.
In terms of Whitelighters then it would seem their powers can be affected by their emotions in Harry's case at least meaning he can't just be a cosmic taxi service which I enjoyed seeing.
So Macy has demon blood in her like Sam Winchester did explaining her dark side.
I wonder if someone will try and turn her into a demon perhaps which hopefully doesn't happen.
With Niko, perhaps the reason she's a PI or is hesitant towards Jada is through a consequence of the spell Mel cast.
If it's slowly wearing off that could account for the De Ja Vu feeling.
And Lucy evil or being seduced by evil maybe. Didn't see that coming.
Maybe Neo Rex has something on her or she's in a situation where she has no choice but to help him from some reason then.
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Post by BettyNewbie on Feb 19, 2019 10:08:56 GMT -5
Can you see the Halliwell sisters going out of their way to help Leo the way the Vera's have with Harry? I can't. The Vera sisters love and trust Harry, and hated the thought of losing him. When Mel realized what was going on, she threw herself into the task of helping him find his son. Leo, on the other hand, was treated more and more like a personal slave as the original series went on. All you have to do is look at "Saving Private Leo" from S4 as a comparison. That was the one time the original show ever cared about Leo's past, and the sisters were still far more preoccupied with their own issues (especially Phoebe) than helping Leo. I guess Leo really didn't matter much to them unless he was transporting them around, playing magical doctor, or producing kids with Piper.  I really liked the necromancer, interesting that she was giving Macy tips on how to use her powers, though maybe next time she could give a less deadly tip. It was also fascinating seeing her perspective of how the elders are maybe a bit power mad with who they imprison. Even though ultimately she in fact DID deserve to be imprisoned, but I'm betting that's not the case for everyone. Same here. I also loved that the sisters were very hesitant to kill the angry witch that was after her. Unlike the Halliwells, the Veras know that murder is wrong and that you don't kill fellow witches. I loved the call-back to emotions interrupting and messing with a beings’ powers, as we saw with Harry. Not moments later Macy’s powers were magnified by seeing Maggie in danger, her anger boosting her telekinesis, another way an emotion can affect a beings’ powers. Making me think instead of having their powers grow in this, they might just get temporary boosts from heightened emotions? I guess we’ll see. That would be an interesting way to develop the sisters' powers. The original show made a mistake by giving the Halliwells a million powers, which resulted in A) the sisters' original powers falling to the wayside and B) the sisters needing to be made stupider so they wouldn't be invincible. I don't want to see this show make the same mistake. So that’s where Macy gets her darkness from, some demon blood, I’m being very much reminded of Sam Winchester right now, we’re going to get a full-on Macy turns evil storyline at some point aren’t we? Like Phoebe queen of the underworld, except hopefully better. I’m seeing a big problem with Macy trying to remove her demon blood, for all we know that’s exactly what’s keeping her alive, I’m no expert but I would have thought spells need some kind of key or conduit to remain active, it could be that the demon blood in her DNA is what is keeping her body going, without it…..? That's what I'm sensing as well. We've already seen with Parker that demon blood can do bad things to a person when it's mixed with non-demon blood. Macy may be playing with fire here. |
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Post by Tim on Feb 19, 2019 12:11:11 GMT -5
Macy was like Dana Scully, in the beginning, she thought that science had all the answers. Now, like Scully did, she's finding out that there is much more than that out there.
Wish the writers would. However, they're determined to keep this block of wood around.
But you could clearly see that Harry wanted to.
Well, the actor himself is British, so that no doubt helps.
We suspect that is one of the reasons why that concept was added. Harry will not become the family car like Leo, and later, Paige, did.
Leo was little more than an indentured servant. It's a wonder that the Halliwell's kept him around once he lost his powers.
That was when the necromancer's true colours were revealed, and the Vera sisters knew that.
The Halliwell's, on the other hands, saw themselves as judge, jury, and executioners, as Phoebe's old high school chum, Rick, found out.
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Post by adzpower on Feb 19, 2019 15:11:08 GMT -5
Something else I've been thinking about. This necromancer seemed to be working for a demon, specifcally to bring people back using demonic blood, perhaps blood from a specific demon, sounds like someone could be building an army. An army of people who have demon blood inside them, just waiting to be activated by whoever is calling the shots? The Source?
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Post by BettyNewbie on Feb 19, 2019 16:00:59 GMT -5
Something else I've been thinking about. This necromancer seemed to be working for a demon, specifcally to bring people back using demonic blood, perhaps blood from a specific demon, sounds like someone could be building an army. An army of people who have demon blood inside them, just waiting to be activated by whoever is calling the shots? The Source? Could be the case. We'll have to see how this storyline goes through the rest of the season. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Feb 19, 2019 16:28:14 GMT -5
The sisters not killing the witch outright was a good call and something the Halliwell sisters should've done in Charmed originally concerning witches in that they'd have never killed them but bound their powers like Paige's past life the Evil Enchantress thus eliminating any threats.
Christy was a prime example where Piper, Phoebe, and Paige should've bound her powers and then tried to help her.
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Post by Tim on Feb 20, 2019 0:18:53 GMT -5
A prefect example.
Had it been the Vera sisters, I get the feeling that is exactly what would have happened. They would have knocked Christy out, bound her powers, and then helped her overcome her brainwashing.
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And these events may have put him back in Maggie's good graces. Maggie, please, do NOT take him back. Be friends with him if you must, but don't make the same mistakes that Phoebe Halliwell made over and over in regards to Cole.
