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Post by BettyNewbie on Mar 11, 2019 10:23:36 GMT -5
Probably just a coincidence, but I found it very fitting that the first episode to air after Luke Perry's passing centered around a couple of sideburned hunks plucked straight out of a 90s TV show. All in all, I enjoyed this episode. It reminded me a lot of "Chick Flick" from the original, which was one of my favorite episodes. As somebody who's huge into fandom, the idea of being able to either (literally) bring your favorite TV characters to life or (literally) jump right into your favorite TV show and correct its poor writing is just too irresistibly meta. (It was also lowkey commentary on the kind of show the original Charmed was, lol.) It's magical fanfiction. Did Charity intentionally push Mel to erase Niko from her life? Is she going to try to pull a similar trick with Jada? Not sure what to think of the Elders here. They're clearly not 100% good guys, that's for sure. Still don't care one iota about Maggie and Parker and their sex problems. Luckily, it didn't dominate the episode much. It was also nice to get a break from Galvin.
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Post by Tim on Mar 11, 2019 11:35:18 GMT -5
Yeah, this was a fun episode. Loved when Macy got bleeped when she said a swear word (after getting sucked into the show).
So, did anyone streaming that episode see all this. If they did, they must have wondered just what was going on. And did the Charmed Ones actually alter the ending of this shows final episode?
And it looks like Harry has become a fan of this show.
So, Niko is getting married to someone else. Mel clearly has feelings about this.
And, if Jada is right, and the evidence supports that, Mel could have protected Niko without erasing her from her life. WTF Elders!?
And perhaps the Elders, or some of them, are being set up at bad guys. Perhaps that is why Marisol was killed. She found out that some of the Elders were corrupt (perhaps even allying themselves with Neo Rex) and she was killed to silence her.
And it seems that even Harry is starting to have doubts about the Elders.
Would be something to see the Vera sisters take down the corrupt Elders (if this is what the writers are planning).
The less said about Parker, the better. Still, he and Maggie had an interesting bit of coitus interruptus at the end.
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Post by adzpower on Mar 11, 2019 13:42:26 GMT -5
I have to say this was a real return to form imo, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I actually burst out laughing when Maggie's vagina literally blasted Parker across the room, you can't make this stuff up I also loved seeing more of Macy's personality in this episode, she's always come across pretty reserved so by seeing her love of cheesy 90's shows it was pretty meta and I loved it, she reminded me of me! Also I loved when she got bleeped. The Mel and Jada stuff was more interesting this week I think, seeing them team up against the witch hunters was cool and Jada helping Mel progress her powers was creative. Actually I think I saw facets of all their powers expanding this episode, we had Maggie's sex blast, Mel speeding up time and even Macy was launching demons away, she Prue'd them! A great episode imo. And very interesting to see the elder mystery develop, I know they won't do this, but it would be an interesting idea if Marisol was one of the evil elders, maybe she changed her mind and her group didn't like that, or if she was just straight up on the wrong side, that would add an interesting dimension. Also, no Galvin this week, and my word can you tell, the show feels so much lighter without him dragging it down.
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Post by Tim on Mar 11, 2019 17:37:58 GMT -5
I wonder if Charity will turn out to be a corrupt Elder. Imagine poor Harry finding out about that.
And Mel is certainly no friend of the Elders now. She trusts them as far as she can throw them.
These are the kind of episodes they did in Season One of the original series. Stand alone episodes, with an arc happening in the background (a la Rex and Hannah).
Now if we can only get rid of Parker as well. Maggie took the guy back. However, at least she's not lying to her sisters about it, like Phoebe did with Cole.
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Post by Jean on Mar 11, 2019 21:54:10 GMT -5
Good episode, but the Maggie/Parker plot was such a waste of time.
I'm also disappointed with how they handle Macy losing her virginity, they made it out to be nothing. Also, they have no chemistry, that such a big moment for Macy's character felt cheap. Oh well, this is the CW, since when do you see someone being a virgin for too long in a show.
I don't trust Jada at all, something about her now, more and more I think Mel is going down a bad path.
I loved Touched By a Demon, that was so fun. And this was a really good episode. I loved it, apart from Maggie/Parker and the fallout from Macy losing her virginity.
Best of all no Galvin. So the sisters and Harry have been in every episode to date. I hope they keep having people like Galvin and Parker sit multiple episodes out at any time.
We don't need all three sisters love interests and plots in every episode.
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Post by Tim on Mar 11, 2019 23:30:47 GMT -5
I know. WHY are they keeping this guy around?
The producers have far greater access to the fans, thanks to Social Media. They must know that the fans aren't loving the guy. Perhaps he's one the reasons the ratings aren't higher.
Something to think about.
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Post by adzpower on Mar 12, 2019 6:10:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately a lot of the CW shows have a problem with "shipping", it ruined Arrow and Supergirl and now seems to be creeping into other shows as well, including Charmed, I wouldnt be surprised if a very vocal minority over on twitter is constantly telling the producers how much they love storylines like that, making them think we want more of it, eurgh.
I will say I am not a fan of Parker, however their storyline isn't annoying me, I'm not sure why, maybe because there doing a much better job of the whole good and evil thing in this show, Parker at least so far, seems like a good guy even though he's half-demon, its not as cut and dry as the original, I like that part of it.
As for Jada well I think things will come to a head soon enough, I predict that Niko will discover their secret and Jada will want to use that hex on her, Mel will step in and see Jada for who she really is.
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Post by BettyNewbie on Mar 12, 2019 9:57:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately a lot of the CW shows have a problem with "shipping", it ruined Arrow and Supergirl and now seems to be creeping into other shows as well, including Charmed, I wouldnt be surprised if a very vocal minority over on twitter is constantly telling the producers how much they love storylines like that, making them think we want more of it, eurgh. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. This seems to be a problem with a lot of TV shows nowadays and not just CW ones. Case in point, PLL -- loads of fans hated the boring, chemistry-less Aria/Ezra ship, but the producers only listened to the vocal minority on Twitter who loved them, so we got stuck with the couple for the entire show. Could Maggie/Parker end up being another Aria/Ezra? Ugh, I hope not.
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Post by Tim on Mar 12, 2019 11:18:04 GMT -5
At least Parker seems committed to the path he chose. He's not flip-flopping back and forth, like Cole did.
Someone is clearly watching the original series and taking notes on all the mistakes they made.
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Post by adzpower on Mar 12, 2019 16:12:22 GMT -5
Yeah, at the very least I find Parker more interesting than Cole (though not as well-acted) because he seems more like a person, not black or white like the original Charmed kept trying to force onto characters.
Its Galvin that is really sucking up the fun, thank God he wasn't in this one, I was getting horrible visions last week of us having to watch this trial thing he has to do, having it play out over the course of a whole episode, no thanks.
But as we saw this week with Macy, she's interesting enough as a character without a love interest. I do feel a bit bad for Galvin though, he's a nice guy, sweet, funny, smart, on paper he's the perfect boyfriend, but in execution? Its like paper drenched in water. A wet, soppy, dull mess.
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Post by Tim on Mar 12, 2019 16:20:14 GMT -5
And when Parker becomes fully human, he stays that way. Let him progress in a way Cole was never allowed to.
He really needs better writing.
But yeah, Macy is doing just fine without him.
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Post by Katie on Mar 14, 2019 22:06:39 GMT -5
Good episode, but the Maggie/Parker plot was such a waste of time. We don't need all three sisters love interests and plots in every episode. I agree with you Jean, we really do not. And the Parker/Maggie story isn't helping. I'd rather they have given us just one relationship and that's it for S1, but not three to all three sisters. Unfortunately a lot of the CW shows have a problem with "shipping", it ruined Arrow and Supergirl and now seems to be creeping into other shows as well, including Charmed, I wouldnt be surprised if a very vocal minority over on twitter is constantly telling the producers how much they love storylines like that, making them think we want more of it, eurgh. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. This seems to be a problem with a lot of TV shows nowadays and not just CW ones. Case in point, PLL -- loads of fans hated the boring, chemistry-less Aria/Ezra ship, but the producers only listened to the vocal minority on Twitter who loved them, so we got stuck with the couple for the entire show. Could Maggie/Parker end up being another Aria/Ezra? Ugh, I hope not. I hope not. That will drag the series down longterm. And I'd hate to start hating Maggie, the way I hated Phoebe. I hate that, Twitter isn't even a 1/4 of the fanbase to a show. I hate how Twitter ruins so many shows like this. And, I beg the writers to terminate Galvin or Parker for good at the end of S1. Yet, Andy was taken from us after S1, and left us with Leo, and look where that went. I'll hate if they keep Galvin and Parker, yet kill off Niko and Jada (the ones people like).
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Post by Tim on Mar 14, 2019 23:17:48 GMT -5
Me too. Take notes, writers, as the damage that was done to Phoebe, and learn from them.
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Post by Jean on Mar 15, 2019 5:35:02 GMT -5
Good episode, but the Maggie/Parker plot was such a waste of time. We don't need all three sisters love interests and plots in every episode. I agree with you Jean, we really do not. And the Parker/Maggie story isn't helping. I'd rather they have given us just one relationship and that's it for S1, but not three to all three sisters. That is true. I think this reboot would have been better if the Maggie/Parker story wasn't introduced right off the bat. We need to get to know the three sisters, and unlike the original, this new set was like Charmed S4, so those first nine episodes should have been all focused on that, with maybe the Mel/Niko story being the focus. I hate to admit, that I think the original Classic Charmed series did a better job of slowly building things up. We had the Rex/Hannah arc in the first half, but I felt like the show worked better, sadly the reboot has introduced too many plots too fast. Now if the Maggie/Parker story was pushed to the second half of S1, well at least that would be a little better. I just wonder what they have planned for S2, once the mothers killer is found. Of course, we don't expect this show to last as long as the original. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. This seems to be a problem with a lot of TV shows nowadays and not just CW ones. Case in point, PLL -- loads of fans hated the boring, chemistry-less Aria/Ezra ship, but the producers only listened to the vocal minority on Twitter who loved them, so we got stuck with the couple for the entire show. Could Maggie/Parker end up being another Aria/Ezra? Ugh, I hope not. I hope not. That will drag the series down longterm. And I'd hate to start hating Maggie, the way I hated Phoebe. I hate that, Twitter isn't even a 1/4 of the fanbase to a show. I hate how Twitter ruins so many shows like this. And, I beg the writers to terminate Galvin or Parker for good at the end of S1. Yet, Andy was taken from us after S1, and left us with Leo, and look where that went. I'll hate if they keep Galvin and Parker, yet kill off Niko and Jada (the ones people like). Yeah, I hate when that happens. Parker needs to go, or Maggie's character might suffer just like Phoebe's did. Still, like Katie said, giving all the sisters love interests in the first season, was a horrible move. Can you imagine if the original series, had Cole introduced in the first half of S1, and Leo being revealed as their whitelighter right away, and Piper's love triangle with Dan and Leo being thrown into the first season's second half? We'll see what happens. I just hate that the Twitter minority might again ruin another show. If Parker/Maggie is around for nearly the whole show, that is bad. I'll hope they make more effort to not push the supporting cast into all the episodes. Galvin has sat out two already, so I hope Parker can too, so Maggie can have her own stories that don't always connect with Parker. Which was what they did with Macy in this last episode.
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Post by Tim on Mar 15, 2019 11:13:03 GMT -5
That has always been my sole issue with the reboot. They were moving way too fast!
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