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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 2, 2024 9:53:06 GMT -5
Here's a recent channel 4 documentary featuring Robert Rinder a well-known British criminal barrister and Philippa Langley the lady who discovered Richard III in the car park at Leicester going on a journey to discover whether Richard murdered Princes Edward and Richard in the tower or not upon new evidence which has been uncovered.
It was interesting watching the documentary and learning about the new evidence recently discovered which for some people puts food for thought in their mouth about whether what these people believe is true and of course there will be others who dispute the claims, but I think overall, just knowing what actually happened whether that's ever known or not will be one the most significant finds of the modern century.
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Post by Squad 51 on Jan 2, 2024 11:23:29 GMT -5
Not available, unfortunately.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 2, 2024 12:22:51 GMT -5
Probably because you need a VPN then.
Geo-blocking again. 😠
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Post by Tim on Jan 3, 2024 18:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 4, 2024 5:13:03 GMT -5
I thought so sorry.
Well, the jist of it was the lady who discovered Richard in the car park believed that the Princes somehow escaped the Tower and did not die there.
The eldest Prince Edward may have died at the battle of Stoke Field in 1487 although that could've been someone else but what verified it was him for Philippa is the fact nobles who were there wouldn't fight for a stranger.
Prince Richard possibly tried to invade England twice as there was a receipt for weapons procured from the Holy Roman Emperor for one of those which in the way it was written suggested it could be for an heir of Edward IV.
Another surfaced document was an account of someone's life in the form of a diary which Philippa and a couple of her research team think was done by Prince Richard as there was a passage about a meeting between Mary Of Burgundy and her husband Maximilian greeting a sovereign which was alluded to be Richard whom stayed with them in Flanders for a time before setting sail for England.
This diary entry was thought to have been fake perhaps but two leading experts discredited that saying they thought it was real for the time and way it had been written with the accompanying watermark.
The mystery surrounding Perkin Warbeck was also discussed and whether he was Prince Richard or not because of the way he was executed only being beheaded instead of hung, drawn, and quartered if he was a commoner then.
Whatever the evidence was very compelling and as I said food for thought in people's mouths.
I do know Phillipa believes Richard had nothing to do with the boy's murder or disappearance as she thought the case should be changed to which she has been trying to get him exonerated from for a long time of course.
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2024 0:20:44 GMT -5
If the Princes escaped, I wonder what happened to them.
We'll probably never know.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 6, 2024 1:44:03 GMT -5
That's what Phillipa's trying to do. Get the case changed to a missing person's one and have Richard pardoned then.
I agree no one may ever know what happened to the Princes which could be a mystery never actually sold although the remains found of two boys aged 9-12 located in the Tower who are now subsequently buried in Westminster Abbey might hold something if a DNA test was allowed to be performed on them but to do that you the monarch's permission and QE2 said no so if King Charles does that too then that angles stopped of course.
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Post by Tim on Jan 6, 2024 12:27:08 GMT -5
They should be allowed to do a DNA test on those bones.
DNA as helped close a lot of historical cases (like the fate of Anastasia). It could close this one too.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 7, 2024 3:33:46 GMT -5
It would do yes, but now we may never know unless that happens then.
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Post by Tim on Jan 7, 2024 12:37:40 GMT -5
Someone should push for that. Settle the matter of those bones once and for all.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jan 8, 2024 14:59:41 GMT -5
Well, the late queen said whoever the bones belonged to should be left alone because they'd been through enough already hence her reasoning for them not to be exhumed.
If King Charles is the same then the mystery continues.
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Post by Tim on Jan 8, 2024 19:11:02 GMT -5
Still, it would be nice to see if who those bones belong to. If it turns that that they're not the two Princes, then the idea that they escaped gains more credibility.
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