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Post by BettyNewbie on Sept 12, 2021 11:03:24 GMT -5
If you have the time, I highly recommend these video essays from Lindsay Ellis.
The first is about how 9/11 effectively killed the disaster movie genre, using Independence Day (1996) and War of the Worlds (2005) as comparison points.
And, the second is about how popular music took an awkward and mostly bad turn during the War on Terror Era, whether it be Toby Keith's brain dead jingoism or Green Day's corporate cash-in rebellion.
In a lot of ways, I don't think pop culture ever fully recovered from 9/11.😔
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Post by Tim on Sept 12, 2021 11:16:59 GMT -5
Yeah, you can see the trickle down effect.
Hopefully, as we get farther away from 9/11, things will go back the other way.
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Post by BettyNewbie on Sept 12, 2021 13:06:30 GMT -5
I can't think of a better example of post-9/11 cinema and music than the first Spider-Man movie. It was a big-budget blockbuster based on an iconic childhood property that tapped into the fantasy of wanting a Big Damn Hero to swoop in and save the day. The movie was also famously reshot to not only remove the Twin Towers from marketing, but also add in some American flags and fist-pumping patriotism.And, the soundtrack? Butt Rock Central.🤮 A full array of gruff, macho-sounding hard rock that sounded vaguely angry, but was still sanitized enough for pop radio and Mom's minivan. Nickelback might've been Canadian, but they were masters at tapping into that star-spangled red state audience who wanted their rock music to be manly and traditionalist, but not too violent or offensive. Dark times. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 12, 2021 17:23:58 GMT -5
And it also trickled down onto TV shows. Look at Classic Charmed.
In Season One, we had Andy Trudeau, who, while suspecting the sisters of something, respected Due Process. Fast forward to Season Season, post Patriot Act, we had Inspector Sheridan, who was determined to bust the sisters and Due Process be damned.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Sept 12, 2021 18:15:10 GMT -5
I can't think of a better example of post-9/11 cinema and music than the first Spider-Man movie. It was a big-budget blockbuster based on an iconic childhood property that tapped into the fantasy of wanting a Big Damn Hero to swoop in and save the day. The movie was also famously reshot to not only remove the Twin Towers from marketing, but also add in some American flags and fist-pumping patriotism.And, the soundtrack? Butt Rock Central.🤮 A full array of gruff, macho-sounding hard rock that sounded vaguely angry, but was still sanitized enough for pop radio and Mom's minivan. Nickelback might've been Canadian, but they were masters at tapping into that star-spangled red state audience who wanted their rock music to be manly and traditionalist, but not too violent or offensive. Dark times. I saw that movie because my little brother was obsessed with Spider-Man at the time and I barely noticed much since I was trying to stay awake because I don’t like superhero films. But reading the article made me realize that it was a bunch of flag-waving, jingoistic propaganda which is exactly what people wanted post 9/11. And of course the soundtrack sucked, that damn Nickleback song was all over the radio back then. Independence Day was a much better film with a great message about different people pulling together to save the world, that wouldn’t fly today |
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Post by BettyNewbie on Sept 12, 2021 19:00:54 GMT -5
And it also trickled down onto TV shows. Look at Classic Charmed. In Season One, we had Andy Trudeau, who, while suspecting the sisters of something, respected Due Process. Fast forward to Season Seven, post Patriot Act, we had Inspector Sheridan, who was determined to bust the sisters and Due Process be damned.
The show even tried to invoke War on Terror imagery with the Sheridan storyline, too. Gag me.😑 I saw that movie because my little brother was obsessed with Spider-Man at the time and I barely noticed much since I was trying to stay awake because I don’t like superhero films. But reading the article made me realize that it was a bunch of flag-waving, jingoistic propaganda which is exactly what people wanted post 9/11. And of course the soundtrack sucked, that damn Nickelback song was all over the radio back then. Independence Day was a much better film with a great message about different people pulling together to save the world, that wouldn’t fly today Even nowadays, these superhero movies are still nothing but glorified military propaganda. This trend is old enough to vote now, and it's completely taken over cinema.🙄 Fully agreed on Independence Day. *nods* Yeah, it's a corny summer blockbuster, but it's a fun movie with a good message. You see different groups of people from all walks of life banding together to defeat the aliens, instead of just some overmuscled hero swooping in to save the day. You just don't see that with today's comic book blockbusters. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 12, 2021 23:27:45 GMT -5
And then they brought in that stupid Homeland Security storyline. Were they expecting to find Osama Bin Laden hiding in the cellar of Halliwell Manor!?
This whole storyline would have never happened if not for 9/11.
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