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Post by Tim on Dec 13, 2023 18:23:29 GMT -5
I read that, due to the gutted budget, having Shannen back would mean losing lots of guest stars.
Should ave gone with Shannen.
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Post by matt on Dec 13, 2023 18:38:08 GMT -5
I read that, due to the gutted budget, having Shannen back would mean losing lots of guest stars.
Should ave gone with Shannen.
Honestly I'd be fine without seeing Grams, Patty, Chris and Wyatt if it meant Piper travels through time and seeks out Prue's help. Honestly it makes sense with Coop's ring that in her heart she'd think of her beloved older sister. Like we saw Grams and Patty enough over the years. I wouldn't be mad not seeing them in the last episode.
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Post by Tim on Dec 15, 2023 0:20:06 GMT -5
What he said.
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Post by Katie on Dec 15, 2023 18:11:19 GMT -5
Works for me. I can see why Shannen may have disagreed with whatever was written for her.
If S8 had a great budget, and Brian wasn't let go. I can see the Billie finding Christy arc being about finding Prue (maybe she never died, or her soul was captured and that explains why they couldn't summon her), and bringing her back for the last half of S8, or perhaps even the reward for the ultimate battle is having Prue brought back.
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Post by Tim on Dec 15, 2023 18:15:06 GMT -5
And maybe if Kernus had been ousted.
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2023 19:10:44 GMT -5
And maybe if Kernus had been ousted. True. If only. Maybe then she'd have come back.
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Post by Tim on Dec 16, 2023 19:15:10 GMT -5
Kernus allegedly once said that he'd quit before he let Shannen back on the set.
Someone should have gotten Shannen's agent on the phone right then.
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2023 19:18:05 GMT -5
Kernus allegedly once said that he'd quit before he let Shannen back on the set.
Someone should have gotten Shannen's agent on the phone right then.
I wish he did quit, if WB and Spelling had power over Kernus and said she's going to appear wither he likes it or not.
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Post by Tim on Dec 17, 2023 0:20:33 GMT -5
If only Connie Burge had stayed.
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Post by matt on Dec 18, 2023 4:06:36 GMT -5
After 22 years. The truth of Shannen being fired is out. open.spotify.com/episode/79GoZUYLP6xSJ2OezBJbgf?si=F5Io7-pmRfaC2qXt4760nQSo much tea on Shannen being fired. So much to unpack. But Shannen made it clear she never wanted to leave or quit. All completely false. She loved the show and would've stayed on. She was never planning to quit a hit show that paid well and allowed her to support her sick dad. Seems to be just personality clashes. Alyssa was unhappy Shannen was paid more than her because Shannen being the highest paid was decided before Alyssa joined the show. Shannen couldn't think of any incidents Alyssa had to feel uncomfortable around her. Alyssa did go to HR about an unsafe work environment and offered a she goes or I go. Shannen to this day has no idea what Alyssa felt uncomfortable about. There were ZERO issues on set. Never did Shannen or Alyssa ever yell or be hostile while cameras were rolling. Shannen being let go rather than Alyssa was pointed out by the two as easier to sell by the the media because of 90210. Holly wanted to quit but was threatened to be sued. They believe had they allowed Holly to go then the truth about the firing couldn't be hidden If two stars were out. Shannen recalls being very easy going when Alyssa needed to adjust a schduele when Shannen was directing. Shannen was fine with it. She would come back for a continuation. Holly joked special effects and split screens can make it possible for those who don't want to be in the same room as others to join if they wish. She wants to share the truth now because this question has been asked the most for years. Shannen wants to close the book on this for good.
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Post by Trinity on Dec 18, 2023 4:53:42 GMT -5
The Charmed set sounds like it wasn’t the greatest place to work at due to fault of the network and their staff. Forcing Connie out was horrible too. Firing Shannen. Threatening Holly to stay despite the conditions.
The male producers like to pit women against women to control them. If they collectively came together then they'd be outed by the media for an unsafe work environment and being toxic. It's why they all had to shut up.
Rose couldn’t help what she walked into. She was scared to be fired like Shannen.
I have to admit, I don’t blame Alyssa about being annoyed at the pay gap, if you’re doing the same amount of work, you should be paid the same. Shannen hinted to this being something that was cooked up between the network and her legal team. Shannen had her reasons too as she didn’t wish to be burnt by Spelling again.
I sadly don't think we'll get a reunion even if Shannen and Holly want to do it. They'd as Holly hinted have to split screen and use special effects to have Alyssa in it if she won't work with Rose.
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Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2023 12:32:00 GMT -5
Did sound like a toxin environment, didn't it.
A continuation is not likely to happen, even if Shannen were healthy enough to do it. Aside from all this, I cannot see Alyssa and Rose ever agreeing to work together again. And Rose doesn't even act anymore.
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Post by adzpower on Dec 18, 2023 18:38:38 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that this is the real truth tbh.
I have thought about this for years, and with Rose in recent years coming out and saying Alyssa was unpleasant to work with...well gee what does Shannen leaving and Rose being uncomfortable on-set both have in common? Alyssa.
And it was pretty obvious they aren't lying about it because they were on the show at two different times.
I agree it wasn't fair for Alyssa to be paid less, but to go to those lengths, putting cases together against Shannen and Holly? Really disappointing behaviour when you consider they already had producers and crew members pitting them against each other.
Just going to put this comment Rose made a few years ago about Alyssa: "You threw a fit in front of the crew, yelling, 'They don’t pay me enough to do this s—!'"
Makes a lot more sense now.
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Post by Tim on Dec 18, 2023 19:25:03 GMT -5
Of course, this does not exonerate Kernus.
The gutless coward still had Shannen fired over the phone, while she was on location here in Canada, shooting a TV movie. Didn't have the common decency to tell it to her in person.
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Post by adzpower on Dec 19, 2023 5:01:59 GMT -5
Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if he or someone else had been whispering in Alyssa's ear the whole time like Barbas telling her how unfair it was she was paid slightly less etc, they always pit the women against each other because if they're friends then they have power, and networks don't want that solidarity.
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