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Post by Squad 51 on Nov 2, 2023 17:57:34 GMT -5
That's cool. Would like to learn that as well. Always fascinated with different cultures.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 3, 2023 5:14:33 GMT -5
In the UK history and Geography are taught separately.
I never was one for history in school and didn't like the subject then we were told to watch a period drama in year 12 for our GCSE's Pride and Prejudice starring Colin Firth which I enjoyed.
Then I started watching more period dramas like Tom Jones A Foundling, David Copperfield, Martin Chuzzlewit and Catherine Cookson also.
That then led me to visit historic places and like certain eras of history for example the Tudors and Lancaster/Plantagenets which made me appreciate that subject more now in my adulthood.
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Post by Tim on Nov 3, 2023 11:30:56 GMT -5
In the UK history and Geography are taught separately. I never was one for history in school and didn't like the subject then we were told to watch a period drama in year 12 for our GCSE's Pride and Prejudice starring Colin Firth which I enjoyed. Then I started watching more period dramas like Tom Jones A Foundling, David Copperfield, Martin Chuzzlewit and Catherine Cookson also. That then led me to visit historic places and like certain eras of history for example the Tudors and Lancaster/Plantagenets which made me appreciate that subject more now in my adulthood.
I take it you're not talking about the singer and the magician
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Post by Squad 51 on Nov 3, 2023 12:16:04 GMT -5
In Germany history and geography are also different subjects. Yet I like to widen my horizon.
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Post by Tim on Nov 3, 2023 17:15:03 GMT -5
Same here.
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Nov 5, 2023 7:37:18 GMT -5
That’s interesting history and geography are taught separately in other countries, I guess they’re combined in the US to save money. Geography is actually why I want to teach Social Studies, the lack of geographic knowledge of my Sunday school class terrified me. After I showed my vacation pictures of Springfield, Massachusetts to the kids, they had no idea where Massachusetts was and didn’t even know they lived in the state of New Jersey, what town they lived in or even the name of their own school 😳
These were ten-year old American kids of normal intelligence who went to a regular school, they literally didn’t know they lived in North Bergen, New Jersey or even that our president is Joe Biden, they just knew he was that old guy on TV. I asked if they had ever seen a map and they asked me what a map was, and I asked if they had social studies but their school barely studied it because it was all about math and reading for the standardized tests. This is terrifying if you think about it, kids don’t know where they live or who the president is because the school doesn’t think it’s important. Even worse, the kids saw no reason to learn about their state or president and called me a Boomer because I said I knew all the states and capitals.
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Post by Squad 51 on Nov 5, 2023 10:35:34 GMT -5
Oho. That was an impression I got when watching some documentaries about the US school system. Not knowing where they live and all. *sighs*
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 5, 2023 12:24:05 GMT -5
That's crazy and not good that certain kids in America don't know where they live or who the president is.
If any future is to be had those types of things are important to know then.
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Post by Tim on Nov 5, 2023 12:33:14 GMT -5
That’s interesting history and geography are taught separately in other countries, I guess they’re combined in the US to save money. Geography is actually why I want to teach Social Studies, the lack of geographic knowledge of my Sunday school class terrified me. After I showed my vacation pictures of Springfield, Massachusetts to the kids, they had no idea where Massachusetts was and didn’t even know they lived in the state of New Jersey, what town they lived in or even the name of their own school 😳 I remember a Trivial Pursuit question: Which country is it that 46% of Americans cannot find on a map?
Answer: The United States
They called you, who was born in 1982, a Boomer!?
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Post by ladyfiaran22 on Nov 5, 2023 12:41:26 GMT -5
In the latest slang, Boomer is a term for an old person, they thought I was old because I knew all the states and their capitals. But seriously, that’s disturbing that American children don’t know what state or town they live in, I learned all the states and capitals as a kid from my Dad. I knew I lived in New Jersey and not New York or Connecticut or Mars, and I knew who our president was, whether it was Reagan, Bush or Clinton.
I guess the closest equivalent would be if kids in Ottawa didn’t know they lived in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada or the prime minister is Justin Trudeau, or British children not knowing their town or county or that Rishi Sunak is prime minister. It’s as though the schools or parents don’t think it’s important to know these things and the kids think it’s useless, if people don’t know their history and country they can be easily manipulated
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Post by Squad 51 on Nov 5, 2023 16:21:33 GMT -5
Indeed. I know that some of our pupils here don't know what the GDR was because they never get it taught at school. The focus is more maybe on The Third Reich and the Holocaust, our forever guilt.
I know of it because I was born in the GDR and lived in that country till the end in 1989. Hell, I was part of it when it came down and saw the aftermath. But still, many things have changed over the years - in teaching, the priorities and more. Scary in one way.
Now I really feel old. lol
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Post by Tim on Nov 5, 2023 19:06:20 GMT -5
I've been out of Public Education for nearly 40 years now.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 6, 2023 4:33:05 GMT -5
Children in the UK are quite intelligent depending on what area they're from.
Most know who our Prime Minister is and who the Queen and Prince Philip were also.
Kids are taught rudimentary stuff in primary school so they're prepared when they start senior school.
Some need help like I did when I was younger but then that's why classrooms have teaching assistants although mostly they work with SEN children overall.
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Post by Squad 51 on Nov 6, 2023 12:05:11 GMT -5
Well, I was educated in two systems - with two different views. A complete turn around, after the wall came down. All we knew was wrong.
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Post by Tim on Nov 6, 2023 12:27:14 GMT -5
Children in the UK are quite intelligent depending on what area they're from. Most know who our Prime Minister is and who the Queen and Prince Philip were also. Kids are taught rudimentary stuff in primary school so they're prepared when they start senior school. Some need help like I did when I was younger but then that's why classrooms have teaching assistants although mostly they work with SEN children overall.
I would hope so!
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